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October 16, 2018 · OPINION

Bullying not an acceptable way to make the case

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Retired Justice Anthony M. Kennedy administers the oath to Brett M. Kavanaugh on Saturday, Oct. 6.
By John Green

As the Judge Kavanaugh hearings went on, it was apparent the Democrats were not interested in his qualifications. They were interested in delaying or defeating his nomination to the Supreme Court. If they couldn’t defeat his nomination, the Democrats wanted to delay it until after the midterm election in hope they would gain enough seats to overcome the nomination.

Why is this nomination to the Supreme Court so important? Judge Kavanaugh believes in the Constitution as written. He does not believe it changes with time. Example: Several years ago the Supreme Court found gay marriage in the Constitution. That’s a big stretch. Marriage has been a sacrament of the church for centuries.

The Supreme Court majority at the time believed in the idea of a living Constitution, where the meanings of the words change as the times change. Politically, the court wanted to approve gay marriage. It does matter who is on the court. The Supreme Court can find any law Congress passes unconstitutional. It can also find new rights in our Constitution.

Yes, it does matter who is on the Court.

As the hearings progressed, it became apparent the Democrats would stop at nothing to defeat this honorable man. All manner of allegations were made, but no proof was presented. We were asked to believe a woman simply because she was a woman. She could not remember the time or the place or who was there or how she got there or how she got home.

Similar tactics were used against Judge Roy Moore in a special U.S. Senate election in Alabama a year ago. They smeared Judge Kavanaugh just like Judge Moore: Unsubstantiated charges of sexual misconduct that supposedly took place 30-plus years ago.

The Democrats have become nothing more than bullies. They smear the reputations of good and honest people. They try to raise doubts in people’s minds about candidates. No proof ever submitted. They take the position that the truth does not matter as long as they, the Democrats, win. No political party or nation will be successful without the truth.

Democratic bullies go even further. They will chase down Trump supporters and those who disagree with them and “get in their face.” They will confront you anywhere – in elevators, on the street, in stores and restaurants, anyplace they can. They have even threatened to kill their opponents. When Mr. Obama was president, he urged these people to come home at the holidays and confront your family members across the dinner table. They are ruthless bullies.

Our public schools are required to have anti-bulling programs. At the same time, Democrats go unchallenged with their bulling of any American who does not agree with them. It’s time to level the playing field.

Keep this in mind when you vote on Nov. 6. This is how we decide the issues in America. It’s your right and your duty.

If the ends justify the means, then anything goes.
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Silii · October 29, 2018 at 9:13 am
Oh please, Mr. Green. We currently have the nastiest, hate spewing president ever. Since you mention President Obama, may I remind you of Trump spewing birtherism about Obama, a disgusting attack on a US citizen that Republicans fell for hook, line, and sinker. Now we have the recent upheaval in violent murders against minorities and Jews, and bombs mailed to people Trump has continuously and specifically called his enemies, awful people, etc. Sorry, you can't dump all the blame on Democrats.
Melrose Carter · October 25, 2018 at 1:36 pm
“Facts are threatening to those invested in fraud.”
― DaShanne Stokes
Jim Griffin · October 19, 2018 at 10:04 pm
I am not liberal police. I have my own views, which include healthy respect for freedom, markets and the Second Amendment. I do not choose candidates by party and I would be the first one to defend you from anyone trying to pull you from your vehicle, regardless of your POV.

If two people think the same way we don't need one of them. I hope your views do differ from mine -- I respect that, but I want to read them in your words and know where they are coming from.

BTW, I talked to lots of people actually in Charlottesville. They include state police who mourn the death of two of their own and friends of a woman whose life was taken by a right-wing extremist from out-of-state. Add jury verdicts from Charlottesville and I think we have a good picture. BTW, I agree they should be better separated, and I think in retrospect they regret permitting torches, guns and worse.

As regards Donald Trump and funding violent activities he has openly declared his support for violence in the audience from the stage. Your complaints about Soros did not document him knowingly funding violence and all of these characters are distorting politics with newly liberated piles of cash that are mistakenly treated like speech. Piles of speech in hundred-dollar bills.
JohnnyD · October 19, 2018 at 9:28 pm
You need to talk with anyone that was actually in Charlottesville. The violence was totally preventable if our former governor had properly handled it. There is a reason you keep 2 potentially violent groups apart and block off streets from vehicles.

You need to do some real research into Soros. His family survived but never escaped from the Nazis. From Wikipedia: "Born in Budapest, Soros survived Nazi Germany-occupied Hungary and emigrated to England in 1947."

And please give examples of Sheldon Adelson, The Koch Brothers, Robert Mercer, or Donald Trump funding violent activities. Personally I feel political donations from both individuals and corporations need to be re- capped. However, violent groups or protests should not be funded by anyone or condoned by politicians.

I don't disagree with you. I just didn't know I had to prepare a legal brief to post on this site to meet your approval. I heard the liberal police were active on these type of sites, and didn't realize you were a patrol officer for them. Probably funded by one of Soros's groups! Now it comes clear...
I promise to behave, I don't want to be pulled from my vehicle and beaten because I miss my old Democratic Party.
Jim Griffin · October 19, 2018 at 6:37 pm
I condemn Antifa when they misbehave, just as I do the racism they confronted in Charlottesville, staring down Nazis with torches spraying lighter fluid, chanting anti-Semitic phrases like "Blood and Soil" and "Jews will not replace us."

A pox on all their houses -- but arrest records and homicide charges show Antifa was not the primary culprit that day; Right-wing extremists were.

Soros is a Hungarian Jew driven in adolescence from his homeland by Nazis. It is easy to understand his activism against fascism. He accumulated wealth in markets, as have many others, and wields too much influence as a result, but he is hardly the powerful person you -- or, rather, Conservapedia -- portrays in the words you copied. Neither is he alone in terms of billionaires funding activism -- does the name Sheldon Adelson come to mind? The brothers Koch? Robert Mercer? Donald Trump?

If you're looking for causes, look at Citizens United, the US SupCt opinion that unleashed this torrent of out-sized spending. If money is speech -- and Citizens United declared it is -- then even the sky has no limits.

If I am running people from this site -- plagiarists and name callers -- that is good to hear. I've been at it here for more than a decade. I consider the editor and many advertisers friends. Perhaps you prefer the other news outlet where there are fewer and less critical comments from those with whom you simply disagree.

You must've missed the Republican congressman who body-slammed -- with approval from Trump -- a reporter trying to ask him questions. I don't mistakenly think any of it is party politics, or that one party or the other is the answer, but it's your quest for the "True facts", eh, JohnnyD?

Lay your full name on us. Stand accountable.
JohnnyD · October 19, 2018 at 3:32 pm
Melrose Carter: Sadly that seems to be where this country is heading. That's why I did a lot of research into George Soros, as he seems to be somehow tied into all the craziness now happening.

We have elections every 2 years. It used to be that once elections were over, no matter if you won or lost, all Americans would get back together and work and have fun. Politicians would reach across the table to reach agreements to make good things happen. Look at what Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich accomplished.

Now a new standard has been set with lots of funding from Soros and his foundations. It is okay to allow groups to take over streets and pull political opponents from their vehicles and beat them.

I don't hear any democrat politicians publicly condemning violent activities by Antifa and other groups. Not the democratic party I used to love. Will they be okay with republicans beating up opponents if they lose in a future election? This is not how Americans from either side should act.

Everyone is worried about who is in the White House. The real problem is on Capitol Hill. Rome fell because their Senate became so corrupt they couldn't function. Time for many changes there before it is too late.

And I will not vote D again until I see my old party reappear.
JohnnyD · October 19, 2018 at 3:04 pm
Mr. Griffin: Sorry that the true facts offend you, and you want to distract from them.

I did lots of research in many places; but due to the fact that there is a cap of 5000 characters on this site I had to severely cut back my original writings. That included all my quotation marks and fact sources.

Keep up the good work running people that you disagree with from this site. The editor and advertisers are surely most appreciative!

Jim Griffin · October 19, 2018 at 12:59 pm
JohnnyD: Very interested in you writing what you think but not cut and paste copying from web sites like Conservapedia. It is unattributed plagiarism; Better we read your words in "Member comments" than those of unidentified others.

Or attribute: Simply use quotation marks and post links.

All political parties represent some degree of corruption. Better we think, write and act ourselves. Our thoughts, words and actions may be all that will outlast us.
Melrose Carter · October 19, 2018 at 12:29 pm
JohnnyD - I say we go back to duels at sunrise. The end justifies the means in this present political climate, cull out the cowards (and we know who took 5 military deferments).
JohnnyD · October 19, 2018 at 11:48 am
About every act of violence and other problems currently occurring in the USA points in one direction.

George Soros, an immigrant from Hungary, is using his vast wealth and influence to foment riots and strife in the United States.  He has a long history of meddling in the internal affairs of foreign countries and is using the same tactics to destabilize the United States, where he was given citizenship in 1961. 

He has a current net worth that is estimated to be about $8 billion, not including the $18 billion of his wealth that he transferred to his left wing organizations in 2017. Funny how I hear only republicans have rich people behind them.

He is considered by many to be a modern robber baron. Calls for his arrest due to currency manipulation and other crimes have reverberated around the world. In 1992, Soros earned the title, "the man who broke the Bank of England", for shorting the British Pound. He made a $1 billion profit under the $10 billion deal. Soros is also credited with collapsing the Malaysia financial market.

In 2008 while the rest of the world financial markets were losing billions of dollars, Soros made billions of dollars for which he said, [he's] "having a very good crisis."  Some people speculate that Soros was responsible for the crisis by removing his large sums of money from institutions and betting against currency valuations.

In response to the 2008 financial crisis, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 was enacted. George Soros and his organizations were big beneficiaries of the Obama stimulus. Imagine if the $110B of taxpayer monies was used for giving healthcare to the poor instead of giving it to this crook...

Soros's early financial support helped jump-start Barack Obama’s political career.  Soros hosted a 2004 fund-raiser for Obama when he was running for the Illinois Senate and gave the maximum-allowed contribution within hours of Obama’s announcement that he was running for President. Not hard to figure out why Obama gave him taxpayer money instead of helping the poor like he promised.

In August 2009, Obama announced he was giving $2 billion in U.S. tax dollars for offshore oil drilling. At the same time, George Soros increased his stake $811 million in the same oil company. Sounds like insider trading and the corruption picture gets clearer and clearer.

Soros donated heavily to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, donating tens-of-millions of dollars to her campaign and organizations affiliated with it.  
In the spring before the 2016 presidential election, Soros invested in gold, while divesting from financial markets (he must have presumed if she was elected they would collapse). In the weeks after Donald Trump's election as U.S. president, a stock rally ensued, boosting the Dow Jones Industrial Average over 19,000, and Soros lost nearly $1 billion. No wonder he hates Trump and finances violence.

Even though the free market has made Soros a multi-billionaire, he blames capitalism for the world's problems. Soros pours billions of dollars into anti american causes such as:

-Promoting open borders, mass immigration, and a watering down of current immigration laws. (Now it is clear why Schumer, Obama, Hillary, Feinstein and others that are on news tapes 10-20 years ago demanding increased border security; have suddenly changed their position $$$$)

-Promoting social welfare benefits and amnesty for illegal aliens. (Hungary and EU countries are now realizing they made a huge mistake in allowing this. For a good reason Saudi Arabia and other rich, Islamic nations never allowed it.)

-Bringing American foreign policy under the control of the United Nations.

In June 2018, Soros expressed his disappointment with U.S. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) for pressuring disgraced Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) to resign office following allegations of sexual harassment and assault. Franken is a recipient of lots of Soros money. According to the Washington Post, Soros indicated that Gillibrand, due to her pressure on Franken, is the one potential 2020 Democratic presidential candidate that “he hopes does not get the nod” for nomination. Proof that good, non-corrupt democrats trying to clean up their party have little chance of success while his money is involved.

As it is, Soros is using his billions to impose his radical agenda on America. Had the DNC not been corrupted by his money and allowed all their great candidates to compete against Hillary in their primaries; she would have lost there and Trump probably would not be President. Middle America didn't necessarily vote for him, but against her and corruption.

I have been a lifelong Democrat. After voting for Obama and realizing what they intend to do to this great, free country; I will no longer vote D until they clean up the corruption he has created in the DNC. Hopefully the entire country wakes up before it is too late.
Melrose Carter · October 19, 2018 at 10:36 am
Observer - It wasn't Mr. Griffin I was directly my comment to, but that's OK, some people don't understand when "they" are the recipient of the comment, and we must not make fun of them. Calling Mr. Griffin "little jimmy' is rather grade-school level.
Jim Griffin · October 19, 2018 at 9:24 am
Observer publicly bullies and stalks on behalf of Republicans in response to an essay that calls bullying unacceptable.

Speaks for itself. Plenty of great Republicans and Democrats in this otherwise fine community. Republican Michael Webert to cite just one example is a truly exemplary politician, as is Sheriff Bob Mosier.

Slinging party mud is juvenile on par with petty name calling. It publicly sullies and tarnishes this good place that could use some distance from hood-wearing bigots. Let's set a better example for the next generation.
Observer · October 19, 2018 at 8:59 am
Carter: Exactly. That's why I can only laugh at little jimmy.
sshrader · October 19, 2018 at 8:52 am
"I have little use for either political party, thinking them both more problem than solution, polarizing... "
Jim has often written about his political views and what he wants from his representatives, he has a firm grasp on his own values and is unwilling to sacrifice them for one party or the other. If anything good has come from recent political figures, it is that more people realize that it is not a good idea to let one political party manipulate or overly influence who we are as individuals. The past few years have shown quick shifts and morphs in key policies of both parties, to follow along just because that is "your" party is to not have a firm grasp on one's own self.
Observer, it makes no sense to diminish another person to some fictional character that falls into your idea of what a "Democrat", or any other simplistic classification, is.
Melrose Carter · October 19, 2018 at 8:49 am
“To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.” - Thomas Paine
Observer · October 19, 2018 at 7:28 am
Go get them, little jimmy.
Jim Griffin · October 19, 2018 at 6:44 am
Observer: Again, I do not vote in their primaries, not a member, but will vote for them this Fall. This does not make me a Democrat -- I have little use for either political party, thinking them both more problem than solution, polarizing in ways reflected in your pissant games and those played by the author of this foolish opinion piece upon which we are commenting.

Repeatedly using the phrase "little jimmy" proves you are sycophant for Trump and condescending in tone. Repeatedly attacking me with your idiocy marks you as a crazy stalker.

Yes, I will keep going. And you will keep bullying.
Observer · October 19, 2018 at 6:29 am
Yes, you are, based on what you post here. How the little jimmy imagines the world works.
Please, keep going.
Jim Griffin · October 19, 2018 at 6:10 am
Observer: Stop lying, learn some manners and how to spell. I am not a Democrat, not "little jimmy" and have no interest in rioting in the streets.
Observer · October 19, 2018 at 5:47 am
OK, little jimmy, go and riot in the streets, brake some windows. That's about the only thing democrats are capable of.
Jim Griffin · October 18, 2018 at 3:58 pm
When I think of ends justifying means, I hear Trump explaining that Saudis agreed to spend a lot of money in the US so we need to proceed lightly.

Or the end of confirming a justice against means that placed a clock on the process -- in spite of never starting the clock in over a year for Justice Bart O'Kavanaugh's former boss, Merrick Garland.

With friends like you -- equating Roy Moore with O'Kavanaugh -- the good Justice doesn't need enemies, that's for sure!
rsteele · October 18, 2018 at 3:34 pm
There are so many things wrong with this opinion it's nearly beyond belief anyone could believe it let alone write it. Apparently the author is unaware that there was more than one person accusing Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct and that the trump administration suppressed the investigation of those claims by the FBI. It appears the Republicans care nothing for morality, propriety or decorum, let alone legality, as long as someone supports their political agenda. And lets not forget the the ABA (not exactly a bastion of liberalism) withdrew support for him and he was never considered to be a leading contender for the post in the first place. The only reason he was nominated was Trump assumed he would support his power plays. If you are looking for bullies, look no further than Trump and Kavanaugh, they are the archetypes.
farmbum · October 18, 2018 at 2:58 pm
I see the Trumpican hypocrites are feasting at the plate.

Observer · October 18, 2018 at 8:10 am
Democrats and their Sturmabteilung only care for power, nothing more.
JohnnyD · October 16, 2018 at 5:50 pm
In reference to Merrick Garland; Some Democrats’ displaying anger at Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s tactics was understandable, though many were okay with it because they would’ve done the same thing in his place. The last time the Senate confirmed a Supreme Court nominee of a president of the opposite party to a vacancy arising in a presidential election year was 1888.

I agree that peaceful protests have a place in the USA. Violent ones do not. I recall calling my US Capitol Hill reps about the violence after the 2016 presidential elwction. The staff I spoke with at the offices of Rep.Garrett and Sen. Warner agreed violence was not warranted or necessary. Sen. Kaine's staff said we need to take it to the streets, and implied the violence was ok.

MissB · October 16, 2018 at 3:00 pm
Have you forgotten Merrick Garland?

BJ · October 16, 2018 at 2:47 pm
Kavanuagh does not have the temperament to be a judge anywhere, not just the SCOTUS. Let's talk about the BIGGEST bully out there right now, TRUMP!

Take your paragraph: "The Democrats have become nothing more than bullies. They smear the reputations of good and honest people. They try to raise doubts in people’s minds about candidates. No proof ever submitted. They take the position that the truth does not matter as long as they, the Democrats, win. No political party or nation will be successful without the truth."

Replace Democrats with TRUMP and you have it correct, not the other way around. As to Kavanaugh, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me! Plain and simple, Kavanuagh was lying through his outrage, over and over.
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