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Do you agree with Fauquier students’ participation in Wednesday’s walkout?

About 1,000 county teenagers left classes to join the nationwide demonstration against school violence.

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martinkus
March 20, 2018 at 12:54 pm
concernedteacher:

I agree with you.
concernedteacher
March 18, 2018 at 1:21 pm
@martinkus - I should note that I fully support the 2nd Amendment just as much as the 1st (and all the rest). But I support the students' right to disagree and to voice their perspectives in every way afforded to them by the Constitution. Getting involved and working through that process of understanding the different positions is an important part of the educational experience. I would much rather see them doing that than fiddling on their phones playing Fortnight.
martinkus
March 18, 2018 at 1:12 pm
concernedteacher:

Well articulated! The far-right NRA folks are strong in this county! Students should exercise their constitutional rights!
concernedteacher
March 18, 2018 at 12:44 pm
I think it germane to respond to the so-called Jeffersonian American commenting below. (As someone who spent considerable time studying Jefferson, I would say name is a bit of a misnomer):

I am a current FCPS teacher, and one of the things that drew me to the district was that there are still good common-sense values in Fauquier that make teaching here very rewarding. But for all the positive aspects of the community, there is sometimes a willful ignorance when it comes to understanding what educators actually do.

Being misinformed and factually inaccurate, as this commenter was on several important points, does nothing to advance the ideas that he seems to want to represent--it only makes him and his message seem foolish.

To begin with, the local teachers and administrators had no part in planning any protest. Maybe there were organized groups behind it with Soros money backing them and CNN orchestrating its coverage. However, local teachers are here to do nothing but advocate for and act in the best interest of their students and themselves. The notion that we spend our time plotting conspiratorially to indoctrinate students with leftist philosophy is absurd. This person should know that class went on as usual, despite the walkout, and the only teachers impacted were those who lost a planning period the week before grades were due to assist in maintaining order.

Moreover, the students who chose to protest were doing so within the parameters of their First Amendment rights, and doing so--whatever the reason behind it--is something that must always be supported. Surely, as the commenter makes reference to our founding documents and principles, he would agree with that.

To the point this commenter makes the FY2018-19 school budget: The diversity initiatives he objects to are mostly state-driven and state-funded, far over the heads of your typical teachers. Feel free to contact the superintendent's office or the VDOE to let them know these should not be the school's priorities. However, it is both reasonable and necessary to provide teachers with annual cost of living increases, such as the 3 percent being asked for in the superintendent's proposal. The pay scale in the county already is far below that of Prince William, Loudoun and Fairfax, and to fall behind most assuredly means the best teachers will go elsewhere. In addition, this pay increase is a bit of a shell game, as it also comes with a reduction in VRS (retirement) contributions.

Regarding accountability--I am all for it. I would love to be able to hold students MORE accountable for their success. The teacher is there to deliver the information, but the rest is up to the students themselves, and often the parents who would rather scapegoat than see the weaknesses in their own children are the greatest obstacle. I can't tell you how many parents I hear from explaining that their child didn't do the assignment fully or didn't follow the instructions because of their ADHD/learning disability/etc. Each one is entitled to something unique, regardless of whether it is earned--and if there isn't an A on the report card, you can bet they'll be going over your head to complain.

To top it off, the idea that enrollment is shrinking is ludicrous. This commenter needs to actually look at the numbers, which show a roughly 25% increase in enrollment over the past five years at my school. Much is the result of immigration, which further burdens the educational system as the children already have a deficit in the fundamental skills that this commenter mentioned, such as reading comprehension. How dare you blame the teachers for this or imply that they ought to be held more accountable? Already the "accountability" systems in place are a considerable waste of time (and taxpayer money) that distract away from the focus of educating students.

If you want to do some trimming, we could stand to lose a few policy-makers and paper-pushers whose job is simply to collect binders of pointless data and then create problems for themselves to solve, to come up with new initiatives and pedagogical strategies to enforce via checklist that have no practical place in the classroom.

In short, Jeffersonian American, get your facts straight, and if you're going to task teachers with presenting the proper lessons of history, stop spewing misinformation and conspiracy theories yourself. The lessons our students learn start at home and within the community. You, whether you have children in the system or not, share equally in the stake and the burden of providing positive examples and character lessons for students to follow. Teachers didn't sign on to indoctrinate students, nor to be scapegoated in the comments section of the local media. We're the ones out there trying to make a positive impact--and quite possibly putting our lives on the line because of the failures of others to properly raise their own kids and of the system to adequately protect our workplace.
martinkus
March 16, 2018 at 2:16 pm
It does appear The Tea Party right and NRA are very strong and vocal in Fauquier County!
Demosthenes
March 15, 2018 at 10:37 pm
Jeff/Am - As for some students in this county, the failures of our generation have given them reason to start fighting for their own futures. We haven't provided them with the safety or the opportunities that they deserve. For those who speak out, good for them for pushing to improve their lives.
Demosthenes
March 15, 2018 at 10:22 pm
Jeff/Am - Wait, you really think that it is our right to own a semi-auto weapon that prevents our government from using our military against us? I got news for ya, even with that AR15 you are kinda out-gunned. I do believe that our system emphasizing the rule of law, balance of powers, and a free media do far more than any gun-toting in preventing the tragedies of the past that you refer to.
Jeffersonian American
March 15, 2018 at 9:45 pm
1. First, citizens should be extremely proud of the 74% of Fauquier County Public School students who remained in their classrooms this week and did not allow themselves to be so crassly manipulated for political purposes by their would-be Marxist-Communist Indoctrinators (read: the local teachers and/or school administrators which organized and condoned this nationwide, Radical Left, thinly-veiled "memorial" protest against Americans' Second Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution). As a County Taxpayer who is forced to pay ever-increasing taxes for these "Agenda 21" and "Goals 2015" Public School Marxist-Communist indoctrinations amidst steadily declining FCPS enrollment in recent years (read: more and more County parents opting for Homeschooling and Private Schools), I find this week's nationwide "Walkout" events to be outrageous and despicable beyond all words for their true, non-spontaneously organized, underlying purpose. And our County Board of Supervisors want to TAX US MORE for these kinds of public school outrages at tonight's Board Meeting? How about holding teachers and administrators (and our local elected School Board Members) accountable for their individual performance and most importantly, holding them accountable for the measured individual performance of their student charges in traditional English reading comprehension; English composition, mathematics and American History fundamentals (placed before World History), just to name a few basic categories of traditional learning and classical studies? Having reviewed and commented to the County Board of Supervisors on the "Goals 2015" program of our local public schools implemented a few years ago, I was disgusted by the disproportionate level of "Multiculturalism" and "Diversity Awareness" curriculum items in the plan- with no such similar emphasis on our Fauquier, Virginia and American history. It was stated at the time these "Goals 2015" curriculum experiences would enable Fauquier County Public School students to more fully appreciate other world cultures. Just how are young adult, 18-year-old graduates of FCPS expected to appreciate other cultures when they have not been taught to appreciate our Bill of Rights, our Declaration of Independence, and our Fauquier, Virginia and American heritage and history with a similar emphasis? If our graduating public school students can't recall their Natural Law rights, or who George Washington was, or all that Thomas Jefferson contributed which changed our world (much less understand the real causes of the War Between the States, etc.), then how are they ever going to know and learn to appreciate our founders' concepts of American freedom and liberty, and our cultural, spiritual and political inheritance enough to make an educated, rational comparison of our American system with other world cultures? Sadly of course, but not surprisingly, I received zero response to my review comments from our elected officials and School Board members at the time.

2. Second, it is my hope the other well-meaning 26% of FCPS students who marched out of their classrooms on our Taxpayer-funded time, might gain more useful wisdom this week from their Twitter world in the form of a wise young woman entertainer, Chrystal Neria, better known by her stage name, Kaya Jones, who shared some pretty frank thoughts about the gun control debate with her followers on Twitter during the pre-planned National School Walkout protests:

https://ijr.com/2018/03/1075931-kaya-jones-gun-control-rant/

She concluded her Twitter comments by noting famed mass murderers Jim Jones and Adolf Hitler.

"Jim Jones used fear and words to influence 900 people to kill themselves drinking Kool-Aid; Adolf Hitler used words to influence millions to create genocide. How powerful the mind is. But hey the wars on guns."

3. Finally, I hope those FCPS students who participated in the "memorial" protests- which were organized by the Radical Left to actually target their own Second Amendment Rights as American citizens- learn the important historical lessons recalled from the first mass shooting in America back in 1966. The article linked, and associated "Comments" section from across America, are key to understanding our modern-era wave of violence as it particularly relates to the public schools more than half a century later:

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/03/the_grim_lessons_of_charles_whitman.html

Young Fauquier students, please look at history. Yes, it is a sad fact of life that individual people kill other people but it pales on an astronomical scale in comparison to what ARMED governments do in a systematic application of unlimited power against their unarmed population. History is the ONLY indication of how governments will act. Let us all learn from it factually and truthfully.

Our American founders were, for the most part, very wise indeed. Resist all efforts to disarm the general population.
martinkus
March 14, 2018 at 2:05 pm
Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing!

Hopefully, the country-wide demonstration will "open the eyes" of Congress.
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