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February 24, 2019

School board budget public hearing Monday night

The proposal seeks $94.2 million from county taxpayers, an increase of $4.9 million.
Public Hearing
• Topic: School superintendent’s proposed $149.6-million budget for fiscal 2020.

• When: 7 p.m. Monday, Feb. 25.

• Where: Falcon Room at Fauquier High School.

• Agency: Fauquier County School Board.

• Details: $8.8-mlllion increase, primarily for higher salaries.

• Next: School board will vote on a proposal to send county board of supervisors, which controls funding. Supervisors also will conduct a Tuesday, March 12, public hearing on the entire county budget, including schools.

• Budget adoption: Tentatively scheduled at 4 p.m. Thursday, March 21.
Fauquier’s school board Monday night will conduct a work session and public hearing on the proposed fiscal 2020 budget, totaling $149.6 million.

The work session will start at 6:30 p.m. Feb. 25 in the Falcon Room at Fauquier High School.

The public hearing for citizen comments will start at 7 p.m.

Superintendent David Jeck proposes an “aggressive” budget that calls for an $8.8 million funding increase next fiscal year.

The proposal seeks $94.2 million from county taxpayers, an increase of $4.9 million.

Under Dr. Jeck’s budget, Fauquier’s 990 teachers would get 2- to 15-percent raises, depending on experience and placement on the school system’s pay scale.

Most of the funding increase will go toward teacher salaries in an effort to address the 12-percent turnover rate this fiscal year when 150 retired or left the school system.

“Compression” also has flattened steps on the payscale over the last decade as the school board changed the way it allocated raises.

Dr. Jeck proposes cuts of $2.9 million from the current budget to help fund the raises.

The plan projects funding of: 

• $94.2 million from the county, an increase of 5.6 percent.

• $48.5 million from the state, up 5.9 percent.

• $4.3 million from the federal government, up 10 percent. 

• $2.5 million from other sources, up 41.2 percent. 

A year ago, the school system asked for $6 million more from the county and received $3.1 million. 

County Administrator McCulla this week will present his proposed budget — including recommended school funding — to the board of supervisors. 

The county supervisors and school board will hold a joint work session on the budget March 14.  

After a series of work sessions and its own public hearing on March 12, the board of supervisors plans to adopt the county budget March 21. 

For more information, view the school board agenda by clicking here.

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ItsASunnyDay · March 4, 2019 at 10:19 am
SaveFauquierCounty2019. There's a big difference between saying you're paying your plumber, electrician or mechanic $150/hr...that's not comparing apples to apples. A lot of those trades people aren't getting a hand paying for their health insurance or retirement. Big difference when you have to pay all of that out of pocket because you are self employed. Not so with teachers. I absolutely agree that teachers should earn a fair wage, but that fair wage is what is being debated. It's not always about property taxes going up to fund raises, it's about whether or not the funds provided to the school board are being properly spent and that what is being spent isn't wasteful. I personally think the higher ups could do better at what they are using the funds for and that it shouldn't automatically be going to the taxpayers for more money.
Savefauquiercounty2019 · March 3, 2019 at 11:38 am
Itsasuunyday. I realize everyone pays taxes whether you have a child or children in school. If you complain about your property taxes going up because teachers salaries are going up,you got to admit you get a tax break for each child if you have any. So teachers can't be made to believe they have to sacrifice if your taxes go up. You, get free public education, free library, tax deductions for each child even when they attend college.
You can say I ramble but highlighting to this community of teachers not to absorb criticism from the residents because in order for them to get an increase there may be a tax increase. Teachers, if it's a sunny day resident pays $150. Hour for his plumber or electrician or mechanic, you are worth this and more. It is high time society gets a grip that teachers deserve fair wages.
ItsASunnyDay · February 27, 2019 at 9:16 am
Brandonj. Sorry to disappoint you but that is not my website. A Fauquier County Teacher actually created that website and posted that Salary list, which is public information.

Bestkeptsecrets. You are all over the place in your ramblings. Thankfully my kids are in college now but here's a news flash for you; WE ALL PAY FOR TAXES REGARDLESS IF OUR KIDS ARE CURRENTLY IN SCHOOL.

nonewtaxes · February 26, 2019 at 11:07 pm
Bestkeptsecrets. How can you both be paying taxes and be getting the thing you are paying for for free?

You must highlight that the school system is paid for by property taxes. Thats the very nature of the issue. How much taxes should we pay? $91,000 per year salary??? (A short year at that) Dont tell me that you dont make

BestKeptSecrets · February 26, 2019 at 4:49 pm
Dear Teachers,

The parents who send their children to public schools get it funded for free. THey also get tax deductions for each child, they get a reductions for the child care they pay for each child too. Stop permitting the community to highlight you are being paid out of their property taxes. They don't want an increase or you to have higher degrees let them decide if they wish to remain in this county. They are already getting K through 12 free education, free library services, if qualify free breakfast and lunches. The county is responsible to maintain your salaries in a fair and equitable way. Stop making the sacrifices. If you have to speak with a parent or colleague after hours start asking for overtime. Your plumber get overtime.
BestKeptSecrets · February 26, 2019 at 4:39 pm
ItsaSunnyDay. You go right ahead and put your child or children in Highland school. Tuition for the highest grade offered is $28,000 a year. They may reduce this per your income. I don't think your government funded voucher will reimburse you totally for those fees. We attended and send our children to private schools. But the same issues exist in their walls. Women can no longer be the brunt of lower salaries just because they choose to teach. Society has to change it views on this field. It is more important than your plumber bill, your electrician bill, or cost of hourly labor for your mechanic. Get for real. The county pays over $12,000 for each child. I am certain you aren't paying that bill in your property taxes. If you have more than one child, the county is paying 24,000. It is high time this community start processing what they are saying. If this county doesn't want master level educators tell them prior to pursuing this county. We don't want you or respect your educational level. We barely can afford a bachelor level. By the way, there is very little difference in salaries. Apartments aren't cheap either for the new bees. And it is no picnic trying to locate a rental. ARMI does not allow pets. SO teachers, get rid of your pets or you are going to end up in the slums.
brandonj · February 26, 2019 at 11:59 am
ItsASunnyDay, great website. Are you hosting this in your basement? 😊

Total compensation is very important. Healthcare costs have been rapidly up for people in the private sector. Civil servant contributions should track what the private sector pays.

I understand how some teachers might be peeved if some of their peers are making 50k more, perhaps if they've been in the system a long time. Sounds to me like the burden is on the administrators to change the payscale so young/talented teachers are rewarded versus tenured people. You can't expect the taxpayer to pay more than the rate of inflation and their own wages.
Jimbowski · February 26, 2019 at 10:46 am
Several weeks ago Cassandra Brown wrote an article discussing teacher turnover and the article had an attachment with a study prepared by the school system which was a survey telling why employees were leaving; contrary to what that article implied that teacher salary was causing that turnover the survey showed that only 17 of about 120+/- left for more money.

I note that this budget -at least as summarized in this paper last week - shows cutting a few teachers but makes no mention of reducing overhead personnel. Several weeks ago the paper mentioned school psychologists--according to the school pay scale the starting salary is 32.50 an hour vs approximately $20 an hour for a beginning teacher. I suggest the BoS take a hard look at the overhead structure and salaries thereof. As a former federal government contractor i know i Could not survive in business with a 100% overhead. Our kids need good teachers and that is where the resources should go!
ItsASunnyDay · February 26, 2019 at 9:09 am
So everyone can educate themselves on what our teachers and administration are being paid, I encourage everyone to check out this public information.

It does indeed show an overly heavy $$$ burden at the top (why are so many needed at the top in Central Office?). It also shows teachers making $91K all the way down to $40K. Holy cow, $91K to teach business in High School? $91K for an elementary school teacher?

I've never seen what the added benefits are-money-wise. So that teacher making $91K is also receiving retirement benefits, health insurance, etc... What 's the total compensation package?

BestKeptSecrets. It's not a manipulative way of compressing salaries, it's a ligimate question to ask. Teachers are having to pay an additional 5% for health insurance? Is that all? We should all be so lucky we only have a 5% increase in health insurance to pay.
brandonj · February 26, 2019 at 8:30 am
Curious what came out of the meeting last night.

Agree with the comments on over-qualification/education. A generation ago hardly anyone had a masters to teach primary school. Teachers are investing time and dollars/debt for something that more than likely has marginal improvement in outcomes for children. I'm open to be convinced, however. Who or what is to blame? The administration for requesting these degrees or the national trends?

I feel for teachers I do, but not the education administration and bureaucracy in general. In an ideal world we would allow the private sector to compete through vouchers. Let me decide if I want to put most of my property and state taxes into state run education. The one size fits all factory education model hasn't been working well for decades.
nonewtaxes · February 25, 2019 at 7:11 pm
save the county.

If the student and the parent are responsible for test scores what are teachers paid for?

SOLs coming out early this year. That means teching stops at teh end of April. May will be watch a movie day, every day.

BestKeptSecrets · February 25, 2019 at 5:26 pm
Teachers are not educating themselves out of a job.
The county should count their successful outcomes, graduation rates on these teachers.
The entire package you speak about is just a manipulative way of suppressing salaries and benefits. They deserve to make what a federal employee makes, many of whom make better salaries and benefits with a high school diploma.
BTW, teachers are going to pay 5 percent more for their health insurance. Tic for Tac.
ItsASunnyDay · February 25, 2019 at 2:42 pm
"There are many teachers with two majors, masters and certificates. All of these accomplishments should be reflected in their pay." At some point, as in most jobs, you can educate yourself out of the payscale. How much is too much? Do you really need 2 majors and masters to teach in elementrary, middle or high school? As stated before in other articles and comments, the entire "package" needs to be considered, not just the salary.
BestKeptSecrets · February 25, 2019 at 1:01 pm
So who will win if our teachers don't get a substantiated pay increase?
Who will lose?
This is about comparing a teacher's level of education, experience and credentials (they take more exams than lawyers) to a typical man's field. I know federal workers with bachelors degrees in philosophy making 86,000 and have time to watch movies at work. I bet you most of the community agrees teachers educational levels, experience are not compensate fairly.

There are laws on the books enacted in 1963 to address this wrong. It has not gotten much better today. The pay gap is 28%

Are teachers being treated unfairly because the mentality exits that they are the second income?

Is the teaching profession always going to be looked down upon in relation to fair pay? Let's keep them in the low paying service.

New teachers being recruited demand more.

Fauquier County Community hopefully will show their support and advocate for treating teachers as the professional educators they are.
Savefauquiercounty2019 · February 25, 2019 at 7:01 am
Nonewtaxes. Tagging a teacher for low test scores puts the ownership of student, parental responsibility on teachers backs. Literacy rates are directly correlated to parents who read, converse with their children in English. Pearson elementary struggles with their scores but they are in a poorer socioeconomic area. A child's psychosocial issues, lack of sleep, basic hierarchy of needs aren't met effects scores. Talented, artistic teachers who are given administrative time can and do write. It would generate funds. Why spend monies with a publishing company the AFT or NEA maybe connected too! Teachers get dictated what they can teach. Let them shine. Squashing their creativity deflates their worth.
nonewtaxes · February 24, 2019 at 11:59 pm
Let teachers write the workbooks??? Thats more work. Teachers want less work. Teachers want smaller classes. 25 kids per class is toooooo much. Teachers want software to generate and them correct tests not ever knowing what the child knows or doesn't know. Have you ever seen a current and accurate blackboard posting?

Maybe student score averages should also be part of teacher pay. How do the kids score vs the national, state, and local averages?
TADD · February 24, 2019 at 7:49 pm
As more parents grow frustrated and place their children in private schools or pursue school choice, vouchers this county has to learn how to market themselves to stay competitive with the educational market. Fauquier county schools need to be able to attract teachers based on a creditable reputation as well as a supportive community. You have very educated, talented professionals employed by the county schools. It us high time you market them. Let them write the workbooks. Text books. Why do you have to contract out with publishing companies? Most professions push their own to write articles, books and put together educational conferences. Professionals from across the state can come and attend teachers conferences here. Have one a year and our own teachers the presenters. If they even worked on summer workbooks and charge, parents will purchase them. Educational coloring books. Stop the stagnation of their growth. Your counselors can have a parent forum and teach parenting workshops. Please treat these professionals better. Their salaries need to be fair and equitable. There are many teachers with two majors, masters and certificates. All of these accomplishments should be reflected in their pay.
Savefauquiercounty2019 · February 24, 2019 at 3:46 pm
To recruit new teachers Fauquier spent over $10,000 last year. Your reputation needs to improve. Teachers should not be relocated to find out the county abuses them. This is unfair and unethical.
Creating a revolving door means our children will continue to work with inexperienced, barely mentored teachers. Seasoned teachers are exactly similar to seasoned nurses. The mix of experience creates a productive environment. The teachers have made enough sacrifices.
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