August 13, 2019
VDOT schedules Oct. 10 hearing on Broadview Ave.
File Photo/Lawrence Emerson
The $8-million project would include improvements at the Route 211 intersection and along 0.7 mile north to Roebling Street (at McDonald’s restaurant).
The Virginia Department of Transportation will conduct an Oct. 10 public hearing on the proposed “Broadview Avenue Improvement Project” in Warrenton.
Broadview Ave. Project
• Concept includes:
Series of mostly short medians between Route 211 and Roebling Street, 2 pedestrian crosswalks, a bike lane on each side, replacement of parallel turn lanes in middle with alternating turn lanes and improvements to Route 211 intersection.
To improve safety, traffic flow and business access.
About 0.7 mile between Route 211 and Roebling Street (at McDonald’s).
• Estimated cost:
• More information: Click here
State has allocated $7 million in federal funds; town would pay the balance.
• Public hearing:
4:30 to 6:40 p.m. Thursday, Oct. 10, Fauquier High School cafeteria.
After final engineering and right-of-way acquisition, construction could start in 2022.
The long-debated project would include the installation of a raised median, crosswalks, bicycle lanes, new sidewalks and turning lanes along the busy commercial strip.
Estimated to cost $8 million, the project would run from the Route 211 intersection seven-tenths of a mile north to Roebling Street (at McDonald’s restaurant).
The public hearing will take place from 4:30 to 6:30 p.m. Thursday, Oct. 10, in the Fauquier High School cafeteria.
In its present form, Broadview has two travel lanes and one turn lane in each direction. Originally built as Warrenton’s bypass, the open expanse of pavement measures 80 feet wide from curb to curb.
The Town of Warrenton and VDOT have worked more than a decade to develop and repeatedly revise the plan, designed to improve traffic flow and safety — for motorists and pedestrians.
That section of Broadview Avenue handles about 35,000 vehicles a day and serves as a major route for commuters in part of Culpeper County and points west. Fast food restaurants, convenience stores and other businesses line the corridor just a few blocks from Fauquier High School and the town recreational center.
Business and commercial property owners consistently have criticized the plan, and the town has made revisions in attempts to address those concerns.
If the project moves forward after the public hearing, construction could start in 2022. The town council will decide whether to proceed.
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Truepat · August 19, 2019 at 7:40 am
Will the golf carts utilize the bike lanes?
ResidentB · August 16, 2019 at 7:43 pm
Did anyone study the actual amount of TURN traffic showing the different volumes at different turn points along Broadway, rather than just trying to accommodate as many turns as possible for businesses, regardless of actual use? Or is everything based on total traffic volume and the turn lanes just averaged out along the route, trying to stick in as many as possible? Looking at the project plan, the turn opportunities and lengths of the turn lanes appear to be based on some standard of intervals and lengths, rather than realistically reflecting where people actually turn with commensurate lengths of the turn lanes. How many times have turn lanes had to be lengthened after the fact around Warrenton, because the typically constructed ones were too short for the actual volume of turn traffic? The dual access turn onto 211 is forward thinking, but I see those short little turn lanes backing up traffic into the through lanes, rather than helping the flow and reducing congestion. During peak traffic, one sits in a business parking lot a long time before getting a break long enough to turn, right or left. At least the cars are backed up in parking lots, not into through traffic lanes (for example, think of the old Chik Fil A backups or the right and left hand turn lanes that had to be extended at the intersection by Sheetz). What happens when more drivers want to use one of those short turn lanes for a turn, or worse, for a U turn that takes even longer for a big enough traffic break to appear to be able to "clear" the short turn lanes? They will be backing up onto and obstructing the left through lanes. Based on a complete build out plan of Warrenton, future volumes are realistically predictable. I don't see real evidence of this in the plan. I predict continued congestion, just, maybe in different places than now.
JDwarrenton · August 15, 2019 at 12:30 pm
I saw the plan for Broadview Ave. about a year ago at Faq. HS. I don't favor the plan since the raised median will restrict access and turns considerably. The result will be many, many more U-turns being made. How does this promote safety?
Another article in the print edition depicts changes to Main Street; mainly for visual enhancements. I'm not against street beautification, but the curb bump-outs (like the ones now in front of Great Harvest), result in fewer parking spaces, and makes turning vehicles cross further into oncoming lane to avoid the extended curbs. In a related story, I read that the Town is considering a waiver to reduce the size of parking spaces from 22' long to 20'. I guess this is to attempt to regain some of the spaces due to the curb bump outs. However, I do not look forward to the loss of parking spaces on Main Street, or smaller spaces to squeeze my large truck into - or others trying to squeeze their large vehicles into and thereby striking other cars.
Another article notes the Town's desire to build a traffic circle at Lee and Walker Road. This is both unnecessary and a waste of money. But hey, since most of the cost will be paid for by the State, why pass up free money? Same could be said of other proposed traffic circles inside the Town, and the one added in front of Walmart.
Next, an article on the proposed 10' wide asphalt trail along Waterloo Road from the High School bus lot to Stone Crest, a long overdue project for safety, will cost $451,000, equal to $309 per linear foot. But widely held industry costs for 10' wide asphalt trails today are between $25 and $30 per foot, with an extreme high of $40. But here again, it's largely paid for by state grants - read, other people's money. But not really, since we all pay state taxes.
Finally, a 2nd leg of the above trail would connect Waterloo Road at Stone Crest to Rady Park at a cost of $509,000, - also a nice addition for runners, walkers, and bikers. But guess what? This trail would lie in the same right-of-way of the proposed 4-lane Timber Fence Parkway!
FalconDad · August 14, 2019 at 1:38 pm
Good Point. Just pointing out the Town does stuff you won't often hear about in the news. I'm thinking last year Stone Crest may have been still under Builder control since there probably weren't enough residents to comprise an HOA. It could be the Town may have tried to Annex Stone Crest through the builder.
BikerFriendlyGal · August 14, 2019 at 1:29 pm
Interesting info about Stonelea, but why them and not Stone Crest? Doesn't make any sense. What also doesn't make any sense is annexing Silver Cup. The Town already owns the land between both Gold Cup and Silver Cup so what would that accomplish?
FalconDad · August 14, 2019 at 1:12 pm
I know original owners in Stonelea Estates and a family that just moved from Silver Cup to Stone Crest a few weeks ago. They both know the distinct possibility of the 211 Bypass traveling next to their developments, but HOPE it won't. They both understand they moved into growing communities and anything can happen.
Unknown to a lot of folks, the Town of Warrenton attempted to Annex Stonelea Estates into the Town of Warrenton last year, but didn't pass the Stonelea Estates HOA vote to allow it. There's also talk that the Town wants to Annex Silver Cup too. If the Town ends up with their wish to Annex both, most of the 211 Bypass will be on the Town's land without needing to be a part of the County plan.
BikerFriendlyGal · August 14, 2019 at 10:37 am
FalconDad, why not stop by and ask all the newest residents at the Stone Crest Development how they feel about being added to your NIMBY list?
BikerFriendlyGal · August 14, 2019 at 10:06 am
Bicycle and Pedestrian Accommodation
VDOT is committed to accommodating bicyclists and pedestrians, including pedestrians with disabilities, along with motorized transportation modes in the planning, funding, design, construction, operation, and maintenance of Virginia’s transportation network in order to achieve a safe, effective, and balanced multimodal transportation system....see ya'll on the 10th!!!
FalconDad · August 13, 2019 at 7:12 pm
Linda, BicycleGirl could safely travel down a future bicycle lane ONLY if the 211 Bypass is built. It’s the only way to make Broadview safe. The $8 million band-aid will not give BicycleGirl safe passage down Broadview. Let’s keep the Town of Warrenton safe and quiet for everyone with the 211 Bypass.
Linda Ward · August 13, 2019 at 7:01 pm
Oh, boy, FalconDad, you opened an OLD can of worms. I think you are correct, yet just wait, the NIMBY's folks will be out, let's see one BicycleGirl for example. She wants her own special bike lane on Broadview though for her and her pals but a Bypass through Timber Fence PARKWAY, no way, the heck with the rest of us.
FalconDad · August 13, 2019 at 6:54 pm
The Timber Fence Parkway 211 bypass is inevitable. It will be brought up at the meeting. Should be interesting since many of Broadview’s business owners support the Bypass. All Gold Cup and Silver Cup owners knew what the parkway was for when they purchased their homes. Parkways in Prince William, Loudoun and Fairfax have done wonders for those counties. Eventually the counties and cities affected had to put aside the NIMBYs and move forward. If you want to keep the Town of Warrenton a nice, quaint town, you need the 211 bypass.
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