December 2, 2019 · OPINION
Local “2nd Amendment sanctuary” votes premature
By Colleen Taylor
We’re facing a gun violence crisis in this country that takes 100 lives every single day and injures 200 more. When lawmakers take action to improve public safety, the people sworn to protect our communities have an obligation to carry out the law — not obstruct it.
This is why I oppose the growing movement to declare counties “Second Amendment sanctuaries.” The proposed resolutions that have been adopted by several counties in Virginia are symbolic in nature and have no binding authority. Furthermore, this seems like a premature act, as none of the proposed legislation has passed or been reviewed and amended by the respective committees with oversight for these bills.
The place to address the concerns of the legality and constitutionality of the proposed laws is at the ballot box and in the courts, should they pass. Unlike previous years, proposed gun legislation will now be openly debated in Virginia General Assembly committees and on the floor. All points of view will be heard and on record.
I fear that a declaration of this kind will do nothing more than divide us, push businesses away and set the county up for expensive lawsuits if the laws pass and are not enforced. We have enough issues with funding county services without putting further needless burdens on taxpayers.
I hope you will find a way to support the Second Amendment, which we can all support as part of our Constitution, without proclaiming us a symbolically lawless sanctuary.
DonkeyFarmer · December 7, 2019 at 4:13 pm
Rusty- JA often posts about taxes and our schools, so your attack is invalid.
Before you go calling people idiots, maybe learn what a period is used for.
Rusty Wheel · December 7, 2019 at 9:31 am
jeffer unamerican is the local idiot who attacks our sheriff with a mob mentality i stand with the sheriff against the mob
ignore rambling rants from raving redneck lunatics
coddling morons is not the path to re-election
we all know how this will end state law will prevail no matter what the rest is just tossing red meat to snarling animals
it would be great if they actually got upset over things our BOS could really do something about like taxes and kids schools sad to see they love their assault rifles more than families and their budgets
Jeffersonian American · December 7, 2019 at 8:32 am
Fellow Fauquier Citizens, the lack of a definitive 2nd Amendment Sanctuary declaration or even a definitive declaration that Fauquier County is a Constitution County which will uphold the birthrights of our citizens in the event of any unconstitutional legislation passed by the Virginia legislature is UNACCEPTABLE, as indicated in the words expressed by, and the latest acts by, the Fauquier Board of Supervisors Chairman Butler and his Board colleagues on this issue. The language of the Fauquier County 2A Resolution requires it to be a DEFINITIVE 2nd Amendment Sanctuary County declaration. Anything less at this necessary moment in Virginia and American history reflects their position (and by extension a wobbling local Sheriff who has yet to speak with the same strength and clarity as his Culpeper and Rappahannock County Sheriff colleagues on this issue) of their intention to stand down our local Government while allowing a series of unconstitutional 2A State legislation (multiple bills forthcoming) and a horrific rogue Governor to impose tyranny over the rights of all Virginia citizens. FELLOW FAUQUIER CITIZENS, THIS IS A NECESSARY MOMENT IN OUR VIRGINIA AND AMERICAN HISTORY TO ACT NOW OR FOREVER LOSE YOUR/OUR BIRTHRIGHT. Here is a summary of our key Virginia Declaration of Rights and our U.S. Constitution history we must never forget- and which remain the blueprint and remedy for all Fauquier and Virginia citizens for fixing our current constitutional crisis- a crisis which is being promised to be passed by the incoming Democrat majority Virginia legislature and rogue Governor in the coming weeks (Democrats may have stolen the votes in Northern Virginia and elsewhere, but nonetheless now have the votes to impose this tyranny.
Our Virginia founders ordained:
A DECLARATION OF RIGHTS made by the Representatives of the good people of VIRGINIA, assembled in full and free Convention; which rights do pertain to them and their posterity, as the basis and foundation of Government. That all men are by nature equally free and independent, and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety. That all power is vested in, and consequently derived from, the people; that magistrates are their trustees and servants, and at all times amenable to them.
III. That government is, or ought to be, instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security of the people, nation or community; of all the various modes and forms of government that is best, which is capable of producing the greatest degree of happiness and safety and is most effectually secured against the danger of maladministration; and that, whenever any government shall be found inadequate or contrary to these purposes, a majority of the community hath an indubitable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to reform, alter or abolish it, in such manner as shall be judged most conducive to the public weal.
Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3: No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
Article 1, Section 10, Clause 1: No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
Section 9. Prohibition of excessive bail and fines, cruel and unusual punishment, suspension of habeas corpus, bills of attainder, and ex post facto laws. That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted; that the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended unless when, in cases of invasion or rebellion, the public safety may require; and that the General Assembly shall not pass any bill of attainder, or any ex post facto law. (CONTINUED)
Jeffersonian American · December 7, 2019 at 8:28 am
Pray for our beloved Virginia as we defend The Mother of All States and the Cradle of Liberty; and may God bless all of you and yours this Christmas and New Year.
Truepat · December 6, 2019 at 7:06 am
The locals know the meaning of "Free State" in Fauquier County with Marshall/Salem being the capital thereof........
Tell It Like It Is · December 5, 2019 at 12:02 pm
I missed another of your "holier than thou" posts that just bit you in the behind again.
Accused me of the making the "personal attack"? Go look at your fist response to my first post!!
You are a card carrying, talking from both sides of your mouth, anti-constitutional, extreme anti-2A, extreme leftist, antagonistic, liberal, dummycrat if I ever have seen one.
Yes, now that is a personal attack, meant to be one and I'm even including a verbal "Preperation H" so you know what you can respectfully do with it.
Tell It Like It Is · December 5, 2019 at 11:09 am
Pro 2A Sanctuary! YES!
Support this movement if you care about your 2A rights that are about to be trampled on by Richmond, commentator unFair and mentally unBalanced, and like minded others.
BOS county board meeting:
Dec. 12, 2019
10 Hotel St.
Constitutional Insurgent · December 5, 2019 at 11:00 am
"The citizens of Fauquier deserve a stand. Make a stand man."
Well said, thank you.
Tell It Like It Is · December 5, 2019 at 10:58 am
F&B ...... uhmm ..... you read it. LOL
Tell It Like It Is · December 5, 2019 at 9:07 am
2nd Amendment Sanctuary YES!!
Call and email your supervisors and the Sheriff!
Speaking of the Sheriff, I for one am not comfortable with our sheriff's publicly stated position on this.
We voted for you Sheriff Mosier, we respectfully request a more specific position on 2AS form your office. Equally as respectfully and given the growth of this movement, the political position given publicly thus far is inadequate and leaves to much to chance against the Constitution.
a. Will you enforce any additional un-constitutional, anti-2A legislation that
turns the law abiding firearm owners, collectors, businesses, hunters,
sportsman, target shooters and the like, that the if it becomes law may turn
otherwise law abiding citizens with legally purchased, legally owned and
properly managed personal property into criminals or even felons in 2020 and
beyond for the duration of your employment that is at the voting will of the
people? Yes or No?
b. Secondly will you fully and openly support Fauquier County as a 2A Sanctuary
as other neighboring county law enforcement professionals and sheriffs have
done without hesitation for this movement? Yes or No?
The citizens of Fauquier deserve a stand. Make a stand man.
FairandBalanced · December 5, 2019 at 8:49 am
always the personal attacks. no one wants to read your crap.
Tell It Like It Is · December 5, 2019 at 8:35 am
Ha ... Ha. F&B you are yapping from both side of your crooked mouth.
One post you state they (guns) "DESTROY AND THEY KILL" and the next post you state that they (guns) are "inanimate objects of your desire".
Explain to the common sense readers here how a gun can "kill" on its own when it is simply an "inanimate object"?
What an idiot.
Jeffersonian American · December 4, 2019 at 9:01 pm
Fauquier County Compatriots, as of this morning and increasing daily, 41 Virginia Counties, small cities and towns have enacted their 2nd Amendment Sanctuary Resolutions, including our immediate neighbors Rappahannock and Culpeper Counties. Their stalwart local government elected officials and Sheriffs did not hesitate to act decisively to protect and defend our citizens and our State and U.S. Constitutions. And so it is up to thousands of us to ensure our local Fauquier officials and Sheriff understand how critical the line in the sand must be drawn now against the horrific bills being readied for passing by the incoming majority Democrat State Legislature and the incumbent Democrat Blackface/Klansman Governor who won't admit which character he is in his Medical University yearbook photograph.
Fauquier Government officials take heed of the wisdom and strength of the words of our two neighboring County Sheriffs in defense of our most sacred rights against unconstitutional legislation and infringement:
"I am in favor of the Second Amendment Sanctuary. I believe we need to send a message to Richmond that our citizens will take a stance. My deputies and I take an oath to uphold the Constitution and that’s what we will do," Rappahannock County Sheriff Connie Compton told Townhall.com.
Culpeper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins praised the Board of Supervisors for passing a Second Amendment sanctuary provision.
"I remain very optimistic that our General Assembly will not pass the proposed bills. Obviously, if passed, there are many of us willing to challenge these laws through the courts. In addition, if necessary, I plan to properly screen and deputize thousands of our law-abiding citizens to protect their constitutional right to own firearms," Jenkins added.
Many other Virginia County Sheriffs have gone on the public record in strong defense of our Second Amendment rights and support for the powerful messages these County resolutions send to Richmond to put the Democrat Radicals on notice. Where do we find such local elected Fauquier officials of integrity to publically pledge fidelity to our Virginia and U.S. Constitutions in the strongest manner possible? It seems to date we will need a very strong reminder to them in great numbers at the upcoming public hearing to get them to finally speak up as strongly and forthrightly as our neighboring counties have done this week.
Northern Virginia is already telegraphing their likelihood of turning into a Stalinist Zone of rampant Radical Left Totalitarianism. Let us draw the line at Fauquier County to avoid such a fate that is coming down across Northern Virginia- before its too late.
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 9:17 pm
i'm tapping away in a bar in Moscow. its 4 in the morning and my comrades are looking over my shoulder and snickering at you. of course i'm drunk.
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 9:16 pm
Same goes for Constitutional Rights I suppose, it’s just a shame that some people hate them.
DonkeyFarmer · December 3, 2019 at 9:15 pm
Read in order, you can almost see fairandbalanced going downhill the more he drinks. Incoherent.
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 9:15 pm
there can be people who hate guns. there can be people who like guns. simple as that. neither gets a special place in heaven.
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 9:10 pm
But bots usually are, I suppose.
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 9:09 pm
Are you drunk? You’re unintelligible.
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 9:07 pm
and, failed to observe and then comment, there you go again, cI
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 9:05 pm
i live in Moscow. i hate guns. inanimate objects of your desire.
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 9:01 pm
And......FB is finally “triggered”. Such hate can’t be healthy....
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 8:55 pm
WE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS OF FAUQUIER COUNTY, VIRGINIA REJECT! REJECT! REJECT! THAT GUNS DEFEND!!!! THEY DESTROY AND THEY KILL. THEY SERVE NO USEFUL PURPOSE IN THE 21ST CENTURY WHEN IT COMES TO TYRANNY.
Jeffersonian American · December 3, 2019 at 8:15 pm
** RED ALERT ** The Virginia General Assembly begins January 8, 2020. The proposed legislation related to our gun rights is alarming. The new majority has proposed legislation that will impose buying restrictions, usage restrictions in a private setting, and legal actions that could be enforced on law abiding citizens because someone feels “intimidated.” These are not “common sense safety measures.” These are laws that violate our basic right of self-defense. Join us in Capital Square December 9, 2019 at 1pm and let your voice be heard! Visit our website at vafirst.org for more details or our Facebook event https://www.facebook.com/events/2357787814326920/
Then protect and defend our 2nd Amendment Rights here in Fauquier County. Our Virginia and U.S. Constitutions cannot defend themselves... WE LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS must defend them.
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 8:09 pm
“Democrats are not out to take peoples' guns from them. Period.”
The Democrat author of SB16 disagrees with you. Why are you going off script?
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 7:50 pm
just posted on this site! you guys are on the wrong side of history. out brained. out writ. out lived. living in stupidtown.
Republicans simply have not addressed rural issues - 1. lack of broadbased attention to creating jobs; 2. lack of broadband which directly affects success at school, applying for jobs, working from home, having access to the internet, access to online healthcare; 3. no affordable healthcare unless a person is eligible for medicaid; 4. community hospitals closing; 5. severe opiod addiction which affects ability to get and hold a job, success at school, decent health, increased crime, lives of desperation. Unfortunately, rural Virginians think Republicans are their friends when in actuality, Democrats are their friends and much more likely to implement programs and supports that are helpful and life-supporting to rural areas. Republicans, instead, as Mr. Webert's statement here, does nothing to help people. Instead, it gets people all stirred up, incites fear with no actual basis, unreasonably, on untruths and implications and suggestions about things that will never happen. Democrats are not out to take peoples' guns from them. Period. But, to read Mr. Webert's ditty, one would think the world is ending because Democrats are going to pass laws that will take their guns from them, take their ammo, take their very being. Thank goodness the VA legislature turned Democratic majority. Now people in rural Virginia might actually see someone caring about them and not just their vote. Shame on Mr. Webert for perpetuating lies and cruelly upsetting his constituents.
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 7:41 pm
I like American Honey Baked Ham. Send to 11 Rotty Street. Apartment 202. Moscow. RA. 234568-u7. We will toast you on NYE. Christmas is an American construct.
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 7:37 pm
Ci and dF. talk among yourselves. Happy Holidays (code for Merry Christmas!).
DonkeyFarmer · December 3, 2019 at 6:59 pm
If the Red Flag law is passed, first person I'm turning in is fairandbalanced.
(Which is an illustration as to why they do not work.)
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 6:58 pm
You never answered if press pool access fell under an enumerated Right? You’re not just a bot are you.....?
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 6:55 pm
What does this have to do with the 2A or Constitutional Rights in general? Are you just lonely? You might want to look into blogging; you don’t (yet) have to ask the State for permission......
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 6:53 pm
Fox News personalities continue to stump for GOP candidates
Despite ethical concerns, they are lending their star power to GOP causes. The practice is unusual elsewhere; news organizations typically prohibit employees from associating with political causes, candidates or groups in any public way.
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 6:49 pm
there you go again. i can't stop kicking you in the teeth. its just so much fun.
DonkeyFarmer · December 3, 2019 at 6:26 pm
I thought you were signing off Fairandbalanced? You said goodbye cruel world an hour ago.
2ASSES? Calling our President a cheeto? Then you complain about attacks.
Democracy = 50% + 1 to pass a law.
Republic = 50% + 1 + compliance with the Constitution. Now you have been educated.
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 6:25 pm
Wow, you really focus everything through the partisan lens, as opposed to a rational policy lens. How fascinating. It explains a lot. Apparently, along with Civics, English and sentence diagraming wasn’t your strong suit in school. Unintelligible word salad can be fun though, right?
With regard to making it ‘personal’, I haven’t been the party projecting on who their political leader is....especially when contrary to statement of fact. You’ve consistently failed to provide foundation for your assertions (privileges not Rights?), so in essence, your argument is against your own strategy......such as it is.
@DF - Statists are fun!
BTW, I thought you were leaving.
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 6:10 pm
why do you guys always make it personal? what does my education have to do with the price of tea in china? recitations? 'i've laid myself bare'? the minute you attack at that personal level you lose. period. no one wants to read your shit anymore. you've digressed. people aren't reading you to see how you are next going to personally attack. they want to determine if you know your stuff. Df is the biggest personal attacker on all of these strings. but, that's what your leader does so you think its effective. little people.
DonkeyFarmer · December 3, 2019 at 5:44 pm
Constitutional Insurgent - There is no use arguing with fair and balanced. He just recites liberal talking points that were issued for the day.
How can you reason with a person that does not even know we are a Republic?
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 5:37 pm
that is fashionable ultra right leaning jibberish of the day. we are not a republic first. if that were the case there would be no room for statehood, foreign policy, bicameral legislation, co-equal branches of government, equal rights. the roman empire was a republic. we are a United States of America with a voting democracy. republic bullshit. wow. and, what Obama did? is that what the cheeto should do? ban people from the people's house who want to report on whats going on to the rest of the republic?
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 5:31 pm
Not surprised to see you go.......as you can’t back up any of your assertions. Been fun, thanks!
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 5:30 pm
It’s called a Constitutional Republic. Guess they didn’t much on the Constitution at your school system.
Hope to see you on the 12th supporting the proper care and handling of firearms, while we celebrate our Constitutional Rights.
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 5:19 pm
it's called democracy. elections matter. that's the fundamental mechanism. i'm signing off here. we are debating nothing. the gun laws in this commonwealth are going to change. for a lot of voting citizens that's a good thing. you guys can do stupid stuff like 2ASSES but it won't make a difference this time around. change is constant progress is optional. goodbye.
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 5:15 pm
Further, is pool access to the White House an enumerated right? Did you take to the streets when the previous Administration revoked WH press credentials?
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 5:13 pm
You’d better ask Trump; I’m not a Republican nor a Trump supporter.
The Bill of Rights can change, there’s a mechanism for that.
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 5:09 pm
and, those inherent rights of man? slavery. let's talk women's suffrage. times change. rights and privileges change.
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 5:04 pm
you need to ask trump about that. he just banned Bloomberg, the news organization, from the White House.
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 4:04 pm
Thank you, you’ve laid yourself bare. You have a wildly different view of the Bill of Rights than did the Founders. Those tenets are inherent Rights of Man, not “allowed” by the State. I’m sure though, that you wouldn’t mind registering for permission by the State for the privilege to speak your opinion, right?
Sadly, we’re coming ever closer to the State you deserve.
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 3:58 pm
Generally speaking, and technically, any act or right that requires a law is a privilege. Privileges can be modified, revoked or taken away. If the voters want to send representatives who promised to change the law we have duty to comply with the changes. Unfortunately, he is my president, too. PS-what's wrong with registration? you gotta register your kid for school. you gotta register your car. you gotta register to vote. you should have no problem registering an instrument of ultimate destruction and death.
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 3:45 pm
Also a given that you finally got to the point where you admit endorsing registration. Good luck with that.
Constitutional Insurgent · December 3, 2019 at 3:43 pm
No.....you merely contradicted yourself, between your first sentence and the rest. Certainly entertaining though. Alway awesome when someone tells a fellow Citizen what they ‘need’. I’m sure you wouldn’t mind the same directed towards you, regarding any other Constitutional Right....no?
FairandBalanced · December 3, 2019 at 3:39 pm
we are not gun grabbers. no need for assault rifles, high capacity magazines, more than one hand gun sale per day (unless you are a dealer or up to something nefarious). UBC's, gun registration and red-flag laws make sense. you square now?
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