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February 25, 2020 · OPINION

Average Americans to bear brunt of Trump budget

By Kathryn Kadilak
The Plains

“That’s the problem with denial. Reality doesn’t care what you think. It just keeps rolling along.” — Lee Childs, Past Tense.

We can’t get much more of a reality check than a presidential budget proposal. There is no denying that Donald Trump’s 2021 budget is heavy on defense spending; remember that border wall that Mexico was going to pay for? Reality: the proposed budget allocates $7.2 billion of taxpayer money (yours and mine) for the wall, for a grand total of $18.2 billion, so far.

The U.S. already spends more on defense than any other country in the world. In fact, the U.S. spent over $649 billion in 2018m which is more than the next seven countries (China, Saudi Arabia, India, France, Russia, United Kingdom, and Germany) combined at $609 billion.

We can deny that money for increased defense spending will come from our pockets, but now that the Republicans have cut taxes for the wealthy and corporations, for a total of $37 billion less revenue in 2019, who else will foot the bill? Reality: Trump’s budget proposes cuts on domestic spending to pay for increases in the already fat defense budget. The budget includes cuts for Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, affordable housing, education and environmental protection.

What we can’t deny is that we — if we aren’t millionaires — will all feel the pinch as will, our children and grandchildren. Reality: Denial of this administration’s actions and priorities won’t change the way they will spend your hard-earned money. Only voting for and electing officials who care about you, your family and those who are most vulnerable will affect change.

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Linda Ward · March 11, 2020 at 10:09 am
From someone who doesn't pay any taxes, Trump loves to give out other American taxpayer money like he is the greatest sugar daddy ever. Throwing money around to look like a big shot and so altruistic is easy if it's someone else's.
Jim Griffin · March 9, 2020 at 1:26 pm
Little Monica bleats again. Baaaaaa.
Silii · March 7, 2020 at 8:18 am
Yes, Trump is profiting big time from taxpayers. It's what he's about. Being president is just a side annoyance for him requiring him to get to the office by 11 am to take up lying and bragging on himself from where he left off the day before. Of course you're aware that he is now a self-declared medical genius, smarter about covid-19 than the doctors and researchers? Take a look at the receipts being released, per law, from the Secret Service. Trump's properties have been gouging taxpayers and Trump continues to gouge taxpayers. This includes protection for his son Donnie jr selling access to him via highest bidder for going on big game hunts all over the world.
Demosthenes · March 6, 2020 at 11:53 am
Thanks Griffin. I'm glad you get me.

No, DF, I do not hope for failure or catastrophe.

I'm not committed to either team, but see myself as a pragmatist.

I take part in these online discussions because I want the best for our country, and I hope that by adding some reasonable ideas to our community's discussion of the issues I help make people a little more thoughtful.
Jim Griffin · March 5, 2020 at 10:37 pm
I have no interest in calling you or anyone else names and certainly no special problem with you. I've never met you nor have I met Demo, but when you write "Demo and the Democrats would LOVE to tank the economy" I have to chalk that up as pure BS.

It's just not so, suggesting it is wrong. No one wants to tank the economy, least of all our common neighbor Demo. Or me. We all want a strong economy, including you and everyone you know.

My sarcastic analogy: Neither do we want to see the advance of the corona virus.

At most, we simply disagree on the best ways to advance the economy, or fight the corona virus. Simple disagreement as regards the opinions you properly observe we like to bounce around.

I'd help you, too. We are neighbors. Ms. Kadilak simply expresses her opinion here and I have no idea if she is an activist or not.

Observing and expressing opinions is not activist -- doing something about it is activist. Perot put it well: The person who says the river is dirty is not an activist; The person who cleans the river is the activist.

It advances no cause nor makes any points to call people names or falsely suggest they wish others ill or to suffer economic reverse. It is pure sophistry to suggest otherwise.

You're a better person than to suggest Demo wants the economy to tank. Not everything is about the election.

I do agree with him: The budget deficits are appalling. Trump promised to shrink them. The opposite is happening. Neither does he blame DJT, observing these matters are cyclical. He seems reasonable to me.
DonkeyFarmer · March 5, 2020 at 10:02 pm
Jim, are you a special pleader for Demo? You seem to know what he thinks....

Jim you can call me whatever you wish, the fact is this lady, Kadilak, IS a political activist. Just look at how many letters she writes to Fauquier Now or Fauquier Times or Prince William.

I don't judge an economy on the Dow Jones, what a difference a day or 2 can make..

You seem to have lots of problems with me.. Unsolicited defending of others that attack me.

Cheering the spread of Corona Virus? Wow.

You guys are all my neighbors. I'd help any of you. I don't care how you vote. This forum is just to bounce opinions around as far as I'm concerned.
Jim Griffin · March 2, 2020 at 7:49 am
Sadly funny:

"We have one of the best economies in history and she is complaining."

Standing by that, DF? What a difference five days can make. Campaign on the economy, lose on the economy -- always a double-edged sword.

If she is an activist against Trump, you are one for him, right?

I find the ad hominem nature of so many comments unfortunate. We are all neighbors (except the moronic promo marketers from India). Not singling you out -- so many name callers here are far worse and less rational.

No, DF, Demo doesn't want to tank the economy. No one does. He simply disagrees with you. Frustrating, eh? Does it make you feel better to falsely claim he wishes the nation ill? Will you next accuse him of cheering the spread of corona virus?
digitalindiaportal · February 29, 2020 at 5:27 am · February 28, 2020 at 10:13 am
Thank you Kathryn. Good to know that there is at least some common sense in Fauquier County
DonkeyFarmer · February 28, 2020 at 9:33 am
Demo and the Democrats would LOVE to tank the economy, and then of course blame Trump. Must be a sad life.

You go vote for Bernie Demo. I'll stick with Trump.
Demosthenes · February 28, 2020 at 8:53 am
Donkeyfarmer should read up a little on the business cycle and how it works. A quick description is that the economy grows at a solid pace for a while, and then we have a contraction for a while, and then it picks up and grows fast for a while, and on and on. Presidents don't have a lot of control over this.

Trump actually has a little control over this. His deregulation of everything probably led to faster growth than we would have had under a democratic president, but we have learned in the past that deregulation also leads to greater instability, ie see the 2008 recession that came from the deregulation of the housing and banking industries.

So Trump is fortunate to be in power during an up swing in that natural cycle. It began during the last two years of Obama's presidency. And that isn't credit to Obama either. It just happens in a free market regardless of the president.

At some point today's strong economy will start to contract. It might happen soon due to the disruptions caused by the coronavirus. Or it could happen in another year or two and due to unforeseen circumstances. But it will contract. That is a certainty.

To support Trump just because he happens to be in power during a good period doesn't make any sense.

It also doesn't make any sense to blame the president when the economy does eventually take a down-swing, which may happen while Trump is still president. Or it could happen under a democrat if democrats win in November.

The point is we should judge our presidents for things that they actually control. Economic growth isn't really one of those things.

I will judge Trump harshly for the fact that he has chosen to run a budget deficit during a period of economic growth. That is irresponsible.
jim goodwin · February 28, 2020 at 6:59 am
That explains a lot, DF. When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. When you're an activist, everything looks like oppression.
DonkeyFarmer · February 27, 2020 at 7:55 pm
I wouldn't put too much into what Ms. Kadilak writes. She is a political activist and avid Trump hater. Trump could cure Corona virus and she would find a problem with it.

We have one of the best economies in history and she is complaining. What do you expect?
jim goodwin · February 27, 2020 at 7:01 pm
Ms. Kadilak, I really don't understand how you can be so upset about Trump's budget when Bernie Sanders is proposing policies that will cost $40 TRILLION!! And anti-Trumpers are eating it up like candy! "So what?", they say, "We're getting free stuff!" Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! I need! I need! I need!
jim goodwin · February 27, 2020 at 6:56 pm
That's okay, Silii. Just keep voting for the people promising to give you free stuff. That will work out well for all of us.

And again, how exactly is Trump lining his pockets at our expense? What? People are still paying to stay at his hotels? All that was thrown out by federal courts. And who is cutting Medicare, Medicaid education, etc.? You know that is merely a budget proposal. You know that congress (your representatives) have to vote on that don't you?

And there's a difference between lying and failing. Trump made promises like every politician. Sometimes things don't work out; like when the opposition party stonewalls EVERYTHING. That's failure, not lying.
Silii · February 27, 2020 at 6:27 pm
Thank you for pointing out one of the biggest lies from Trump - that Mexico will pay for the wall. Some of the billions currently paying for it were taken from funds allocated to improve totally substandard, uninhabitable housing for our military families. Now, further billions are coming from the middle and lower classes. I notice some commenters still invoke Hillary or Obama. I guess they don't understand that is past tense and a feeble way of ignoring today's reality about how Trump lied to them, continues to lie, and they keep falling for it but can't admit it. What Trump is doing with his schemes and lies, and lining his own pockets at our expense, is the current reality. Trump's continued attempts to cut medicare, medicaid, education etc. are in spite of him saying he wouldn't do that. Liar. And, hang on to your hat when pre-existing conditions are allowable fodder to deny health insurance.
Calypso · February 27, 2020 at 5:39 pm
Vote TRUMP 2020!!!!!!!!!!!
jim goodwin · February 27, 2020 at 3:52 pm
This is so funny when the Democrat presidential front runners are all proposing plans that will far exceed US GDP. I think I can live with $18b for a wall to keep out more potential Democrat voters, which is really why the wall is opposed by Democrats.

And I'm glad we're spending more on defense than any other country. WE HAVE MORE TO DEFEND!!
Demosthenes · February 27, 2020 at 8:21 am
Hitlery represents the very worst of our society.

Lots of insults and name calling, but never any content or real analysis.

I'd happily give up my anonymous username if that meant the trash from anonymous trolls like Hitlery were also eliminated.

Fauquiernow / Lawrence Emerson - what do you say? As an important source for news and information in our community, do you have a responsibility to encourage more civil discourse between the people in this county?
Demosthenes · February 26, 2020 at 6:10 pm
Donkeyfarmer - you are always so quick to go on the attack that I am afraid it affects your reading ability. Check again. I support government deficits (to some degree) when we are spending ourselves out of a recession. That would be true when either party is in power. I also support balanced budgets when the economy is doing well. When it comes to balanced budgets, I don't expect Democrats to ever make that a priority. That is a major shortcoming for their party. But I wish Republicans would go back to the days of George H.W. (or even Newt) and the promise of running balanced budgets. While I occasionally vote for a Republican for the House, I haven't voted for a Republican president for a couple of election cycles now. But I'd like to again someday, if only we had a Republican who demonstrated an understanding of economics and the importance of running a balanced budget.
DonkeyFarmer · February 26, 2020 at 3:55 pm
Demo - So when Obama was in charge it was the Republicans fault, and when Trump is in charge it is ALSO the Republicans fault. Got it!

You are a CNN WaPo talking points bot.
Demosthenes · February 26, 2020 at 9:56 am
Fact checking time...

Donkeyfarmer: The budget is passed by Congress and with the signature of the President. For Trump's first two years in office we had a Republican majority in the House and Senate and the budget passed still ran trillion dollar deficits each year. Right now the House can propose a budget that is balanced, but it would have to pass the Senate and the President's desk. So while the current trillion dollar deficits are more of a team effort than the 2017 and 2018 budgets were, the Republicans are still responsible for this kind of deficit spending. Also remember that we expect democrats to run deficits, but one of the appeals of the old-guard Republicans was that they were supposed to understand economics and the importance of running a balanced budget. Gone are those days!

Sonny Day: The initial bailout package signed by President George W. included over 700 billion in bank bailouts. When Obama became president some of that money had already been distributed to the banks, but Obama made changes to the bailout package to move as much of it as possible from bank handouts to infrastructure projects.

Also remember that when we are in a recession it is generally considered good practice for the government to increase spending and to cut taxes to try to stimulate the economy and end the recession. Obama increased our debt by trillions of dollars, but at least he was doing that in response to the worst recession we've seen since the Great Depression. Trump and our current Republicans are adding the same levels to our debt that Obama added, but they are doing it during a time of economic strength! That is really irresponsible.

We should hold them accountable in the next election, but unfortunately I don't see how to do that! Our options seem to be Democrats who have always promised to run deficits, or else Republicans who have recently decided to do the same thing as Democrats anyway.
DonkeyFarmer · February 25, 2020 at 10:49 am
Kathryn- The House of Representatives controls the spending and passes the budget. It is controlled by Democrats. So the administration you must be speaking of is the Pelosi administration?
Tony Bentley · February 25, 2020 at 10:24 am
Agreed. The future of our children is being mortgaged and remortgaged to benefit the wealthy. We have very little equity left to protect ourselves in case of a national pandemic or catastrophe.

To those out there that want to slam Ms. Kadilak's views, you don't have to agree with someone's views or their vote to protect their right to be heard and to be treated with respect.
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