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February 24, 2020 · OPINION

“Junk science” blames CO2 for changes in climate

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By Bob Touhey

The discussions on climate change are continuing on both sides of the aisle, and liberals (global warming enthusiasts) are convinced that carbon dioxide is the culprit.

Most knowledgeable people on the right know that greenhouse gasses are about 95 percent water vapor and other gases of about 4 percent, which is CO2 from the oceans and anthropogenic CO2 of about 0.017 percent trace gas. Any suggestion that this small amount of CO2 is driving the earth’s climate is junk science.

There has been talk by uninformed people in Congress that it will lead to disastrous consequences. They say that glaciers will be melting, excessive sea levels will occur, polar bears will be in jeopardy, etc. How uninformed can people get?

To add insult to injury, they believe their own junk science. To set the record straight: The polar bears at last count are over 35,000 and growing; glaciers and sea ice are still increasing at both poles in the winter. There is some melting in the west Antarctic ice sheet, almost all due to the 130-plus volcanoes under that ice sheet. I’ve heard they recently discovered several more, and many are still active.

The earth is thought to be in a 400-year cycle of the sun, according to top Russian scientists. How did the U.N. scientists get it so wrong, you ask? Well, it had a lot to do with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the U.N. body responsible for climate predictions, not taking into account the major contributions of our sun. They thought that we on earth control our own climate. That couldn’t be further from the truth. The sun is a major contributor and the other planets we share our solar system with have an impact as well.

Sound complex? It is, and we are learning more all the time.

Any notion that CO2 controls our climate is junk sciences to be sure. But, CO2 is very important to life on earth. The underprivileged countries of the world are suffering as development loans are tied to the requirement that funds cannot be used to develop their huge quantities of fossil fuels. African people are kept on bare subsistence lifestyles wile we fly all over and drive our SUVs.

Sound ludicrous? It is. It all tracks back to the notion, heavily invested by European countries, that CO2 is a bad thing. Absolute nonsense. We actually have shortages of CO2 worldwide. The teachers are mandated to teach our children this junk science in our public schools.

We must stop this “lie.” As Dr. Patrick Moore, former head of Green Peace, said at a Hartland Institute conference I attended recently: “Tell you kids there is nothing wrong with CO2, and the more the merrier.”

The writer has written a book about his service as a U.S. Navy captain with a helicopter attack squadron during the Vietnam War, “Seawolf, Where You From?” and a book of poetry, “When Irish Eyes Are Smiling.” He plans another book on climate science.

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John · February 27, 2020 at 10:28 am
According to Greenpeace, Moore is "a paid spokesman for the nuclear industry, the logging industry, and genetic engineering industry" who "exploits long-gone ties with Greenpeace to sell himself as a speaker and pro-corporate spokesperson". (Source of the above: wikipedia)
In the relatively short time since the Industrial Revolution, global temperatures have spiked up several degrees in lockstep with the spike in CO2 in the atmosphere. This increase is unlike the rates of change from natural cycles over the past 2,000 years.
DonkeyFarmer · February 26, 2020 at 8:24 pm
Tony you are really grasping now.

Never called you an idiot, moron, or any other insult. I said you were ignorant and you proved it when you didn't even know who was running the Energy Department.

Tony Bently was the one that came on here throwing insults around until he was called out. Now he is sulking like a hurt puppy.

You think teaching your child your own beliefs is "bullying?" It's called being a parent. Or maybe you think strangers at public schools should be moulding the mind of your child?
Tony Bentley · February 26, 2020 at 7:34 pm
"The public schools here are teaching man made global warming to my 3rd grader like it is a fact. I have to deprogram her every week." - from Donkey Farmer

All you ever need to know about who and what DF is right there in his comment. That poor little girl, not only does he bully people on here, he bullies his own child into his own beliefs.

Don't agree with Donkey Farmer? You are either an idiot or moron, right DF.
Demosthenes · February 26, 2020 at 10:09 am
If we bet that the scientists are wrong...
... and it turns out that we are right, we get to maintain current GDP growth and continue polluting.
...and it turns out that we are wrong, we risk the future of every species on this planet including our own.

If we bet that the scientists are right...
...and we are right, then we enact policies that help mitigate the very worst of the damage that is coming our way.
...and we are wrong then we enact policies that lead to a cleaner environment while slowing GDP growth a little more than we needed to.

Based on the possible bets and outcomes, I feel like this should be a no-brainer.

DonkeyFarmer · February 26, 2020 at 9:59 am
Tony is a typical liberal, dishes it out but can't take it back. Don't agree with Tony? You are a bully! Or a racist!
Tony Bentley · February 26, 2020 at 9:26 am
Once again the self-proclaimed genius spits out his opinion, right Donkey Farmer. Go bully somewhere and someone else you coward. If that's all you have then you aren't worth much to anyone, let alone yourself.
DonkeyFarmer · February 25, 2020 at 7:14 pm
What Tony means is his mom took his computer away.

His ignorance of the Energy Secretary mirrors his ignorance of most issues.

Back to the basement for you Tony!
Tony Bentley · February 25, 2020 at 6:15 pm
Rick Perry is gone!! Wahoo! Did he leave because he got caught with his pants down?

I haven't been listening to or reading the news since Thanksgiving, dropped Facebook, and don't watch TV, so out of the loop. Even this web page gets boring and who wants to read "grown-ups" being bullies behind their computer screen. Was sick and tired of all of Trump this and Trump that, he is an attention hog without a soul.

Now as to Weinstein, nasty piece of work there. Hope he gets his in prison along with Roger Stone. Imagine if they were cellmates laughing over the Nixon tattoo. Serves them right!
Sonny Day · February 25, 2020 at 12:43 pm
Somebody needs to bring these liberals up to date, even though they don't like facts. Rick Perry left the office of the Secretary of Energy on 12/1/19.

Speaking of sexual assault, how come I don't hear Tony or any democrat talking about their big political donor, Harvey Weinstein. As I said, the hypocrisy grows...
DonkeyFarmer · February 25, 2020 at 12:16 pm
Haha Tony. Women and of color will be the most severely impacted by climate change? What a bunch of nonsense. All you guys have is the race card. Get over it.

"World ends tomorrow! Women and minorities hit hardest!"
jim goodwin · February 25, 2020 at 11:54 am
Maybe putting Rick Perry's quotes in context will {ahem} shed some light on Tony's nonsensical post:
Tony Bentley · February 25, 2020 at 11:12 am
Here is the genius that runs the Energy Department - give him a hand guys - only the Best in this administration.

The Sierra Club issued a statement calling on Perry to resign, saying, "It was already clear that Rick Perry is unfit to lead the Department of Energy, but to suggest that fossil fuel development will decrease sexual assault is not only blatantly untrue, it is an inexcusable attempt to minimize a serious and pervasive issue. Women, and particularly women of color, are among some of the most severely impacted by the climate crisis, and it is these same communities that are most at risk of sexual assault."
DonkeyFarmer · February 25, 2020 at 10:52 am
Very well said Sonny.

The public schools here are teaching man made global warming to my 3rd grader like it is a fact. I have to deprogram her every week.
Sonny Day · February 25, 2020 at 9:22 am
The climate change is a New World Order hoax to deindustrialize the USA.

Remember the Paris Accord? Obama proudly said no new jobs would be coming to America, while he was sending our tax monies all over the world with no accountability or even standards to follow. Even China and North Korea had both hands out; one to get the free money, and the other with the middle finger stuck out telling the world they will not change anything for at least 30 years. I've read some speculations that some of that money actually came back to the US from these countries in the form of political donations.

Democrat candidates know that liberals think with emotions, not facts. So they play the climate change card to keep them under control. The Earth is constantly changing for many reasons beyond our control. I've been trying to find some elderly dinosaurs to see if they remember what they did to cause the ice age.

Now we have a New World Order billionaire, Bloomberg, running as being the climate change candidate. I wonder why...
jim goodwin · February 25, 2020 at 5:25 am
As usual, Silii has no facts.

The "climate scientists" that are so prominent in the debate have been wrong in every prediction they've made. The models on which they rely have been wrong.

They alter data to suit their claims and perpetuate the fraud:

Yes. I cite one source. I do that because that one source has already done the HARD WORK and accumulated citations from many other sources. He even uses NASA and NOAA data.
Silii · February 24, 2020 at 6:39 pm
Climate change, global warming, whatever descriptor one chooses, is a serious issue that should be approached and discussed in a reasonable way. Unfortunately, the author of this opinion immediately points fingers at "liberals" who "believe their own junk science." Meanwhile, the author posits that "most knowledgeable people on the right know..." to be the truth. Then, incredibly the author supports opinions from "top Russian scientists." So, bosh to this opinion piece. There is far more to climate change than CO2 and an acceptable discussion does not play the "blame the liberals" game."
jim goodwin · February 24, 2020 at 4:25 pm
Never mind that during the Cretaceous period, when life exploded on earth, CO2 was as high as 7000 ppm (it's 400 ppm now).

Never mind that the earth is getting greener.

Never mind all the data tampering done by NASA to hide warmer, pre-industrial temperatures when C02 was lower.
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